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Here is the latest from Brenneke's American manufacturing rep with regards to the use of the soon to be released 2 1/2" (65mm) 16ga "Classic" slugs in choked barrels (all Brenneke slugs for that matter):
"I must apologize for some information I gave you concerning using the new Brenneke USA, 2 1/2 inch 16ga slug, in full choke barrels. Some of the others who work with me in the US with Brenneke had a strong concern that in some of the drillings with Full and Super Full chokes could experience a problem that may damage the muzzle area. We are all aware that the ribs on Brenneke slugs are there for one purpose, they compress as they pass through the restricted areas in the barrel, forcing cone in front of the chamber, the inside bore, and the choke, and may be used in any choke - - improved cylinder, modified, and full. We were concerned that some of the drillings which have different chokes then what is used in the US could cause a problem.
However, when I contacted the people in Germany I was told this would not be a problem. I was given the following information:
"In 16ga there are the following barrel measurements (diameters):
Cylinder .670 diameter
Modified .650 diameter
Full Choke . 640 diameter
Extra Full Choke . 630 diameter
Via Internet the special Remington choke tubes with .610 and.600 diameter"
"The total diameter of a Original BRENNEKE CLASSIC SLUG 16ga is .670 including the ribs, the core measurement within the ribs is .570. This means our slug is able to function in even the tightest choke available".
"Because of these technical facts there is no need for any warning or disclaimer for our products" "The same situation can be transferred to 12 and 20ga".
"Please note that every manufacturer of barrels for shot guns, drillings etc. uses an own system for designing the choke system. There are no regulations how the interior course of the choke has to be. Following to that the accuracy of any barrel can be very different and has to be tested on a shooting range with our slugs in detail (groups of 5 at 50 yards are better than groups of 3). 20 years ago we created the so called "Langenhagen Standard". It means that the group of 5 shots at 50 yards should not be more than 4" (10cm) from one shotgun barrel". Every good quality shotgun on the market fulfills this standard".
There you have it from the experts in Germany. One of you most likely will want to let your group members know that it is ok to use the new Brenneke USA 2 1/2 inch 16ga in a full choke.
Sorry if I caused any confusion.
I am also attaching two different ways your associates may want to use to locate this slug to purchase using a dealer close to them. Not all of our distributors will be stocking this slug until there is a demand. If they do not have it they can ask the dealer to order it for them from one of the Brenneke USA distributors on the attached list.
Some good news, after all of the delays the slugs and all of the components have now arrived and our loading company will begin loading next week. It may take several weeks before they will be available from the dealers. Most dealer will very likely likely not know Brenneke is offering them."
So there you go. I am unfamilar with attaching documents on this forum so I'll need some assistance in getting the aforementioned "two different ways" of contacting Brenneke's distributors to the larger group (all of you).
Regards,
Mark
Here is the latest from Brenneke's American manufacturing rep with regards to the use of the soon to be released 2 1/2" (65mm) 16ga "Classic" slugs in choked barrels (all Brenneke slugs for that matter):
"I must apologize for some information I gave you concerning using the new Brenneke USA, 2 1/2 inch 16ga slug, in full choke barrels. Some of the others who work with me in the US with Brenneke had a strong concern that in some of the drillings with Full and Super Full chokes could experience a problem that may damage the muzzle area. We are all aware that the ribs on Brenneke slugs are there for one purpose, they compress as they pass through the restricted areas in the barrel, forcing cone in front of the chamber, the inside bore, and the choke, and may be used in any choke - - improved cylinder, modified, and full. We were concerned that some of the drillings which have different chokes then what is used in the US could cause a problem.
However, when I contacted the people in Germany I was told this would not be a problem. I was given the following information:
"In 16ga there are the following barrel measurements (diameters):
Cylinder .670 diameter
Modified .650 diameter
Full Choke . 640 diameter
Extra Full Choke . 630 diameter
Via Internet the special Remington choke tubes with .610 and.600 diameter"
"The total diameter of a Original BRENNEKE CLASSIC SLUG 16ga is .670 including the ribs, the core measurement within the ribs is .570. This means our slug is able to function in even the tightest choke available".
"Because of these technical facts there is no need for any warning or disclaimer for our products" "The same situation can be transferred to 12 and 20ga".
"Please note that every manufacturer of barrels for shot guns, drillings etc. uses an own system for designing the choke system. There are no regulations how the interior course of the choke has to be. Following to that the accuracy of any barrel can be very different and has to be tested on a shooting range with our slugs in detail (groups of 5 at 50 yards are better than groups of 3). 20 years ago we created the so called "Langenhagen Standard". It means that the group of 5 shots at 50 yards should not be more than 4" (10cm) from one shotgun barrel". Every good quality shotgun on the market fulfills this standard".
There you have it from the experts in Germany. One of you most likely will want to let your group members know that it is ok to use the new Brenneke USA 2 1/2 inch 16ga in a full choke.
Sorry if I caused any confusion.
I am also attaching two different ways your associates may want to use to locate this slug to purchase using a dealer close to them. Not all of our distributors will be stocking this slug until there is a demand. If they do not have it they can ask the dealer to order it for them from one of the Brenneke USA distributors on the attached list.
Some good news, after all of the delays the slugs and all of the components have now arrived and our loading company will begin loading next week. It may take several weeks before they will be available from the dealers. Most dealer will very likely likely not know Brenneke is offering them."
So there you go. I am unfamilar with attaching documents on this forum so I'll need some assistance in getting the aforementioned "two different ways" of contacting Brenneke's distributors to the larger group (all of you).
Regards,
Mark
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