Karl Laüger in Lörrach 8.15X46NOR rifle

[PatBig]

Hello, I just received my newest shutzen rifle, Martini action signed Karl Laüger. Caliber is engraved on the barrel, 8.15X46NOR, it's apparently synonymous to 8.15X46R. The rifle is in very good condition. The Martini action is more elaborate than on other Martinis I have, and the whole trigger assembly can be easily removed with a quarter turn cam system. The diopter is quite interesting, the vertical aperture can be adjusted with two additional screws on the sides. There are many marking on the barrel, I'd be very grateful for any help understanding what they means. For some reason I have not been able to insert all the pictures, I will try again.
Patrick

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[PatBig]

here are pictures of the markings on the barrel. marquage-canon-dessous-av-web.jpg marquage-canon-dessus-ar-web.jpg marquage-canon-dessous-ar-web.jpg

[mike ford]

PatBig,
The caliber of your rifle is 8.15x46R, the NOR is for Normalizert(normalized or standardized).The Bl.G 11Gr means it was proofed for a lead bullet(blei geschoss) weighing 11grams or about 170 grains. The Crown G means it was proofed to fire a single projectile(bullet).The Crown U is the mark for the View Proof, which is really a detailed inspection. The 7.6mm/46 is the bore(not groove or bullet) diameter, and case length. Other rifles I have observed with this bore diameter had a groove diameter of about .312". This is a little tight, but quite common. The 3,28( the Germans use a , where we would use a .) means it was proofed in March of 1928. The 284 is the register number. At this time, Suhl did not mark the guns with register numbers, so it was proofed in Zella- Mehilis. The "BOHLER STAHL" with stars is the type(and likely grade) of steel, the barrel was made from. Other marks such as mm The shield inclosing U A and Z are touch marks of barrel maker and other workmen completing some part of the work. Since it was proofed in Z-M, it was likely made there or near there. Others on this board will likely be able to ID the other marks and may chime in.
Mike

[PatBig]

Many thanks Mike, very useful. I thought the manufacture date might be hidden somewhere among the markings. On my other 8.15X46R rifle, barrel also marked 7,6 mm I use the same bullets as the ones I cast for my 32-40 Winchester single shot. They're a bit heavier, 180 grains, but work very well, good accuracy. I guess my rifle is proofed for smokeless powder, since it was made in 1928? I like this caliber, easy and cheap to reload, brass made from 30-30 Win, and many molds available.
Patrick

PatBig,
The caliber of your rifle is 8.15x46R, the NOR is for Normalizert(normalized or standardized).The Bl.G 11Gr means it was proofed for a lead bullet(blei geschoss) weighing 11grams or about 170 grains. The Crown G means it was proofed to fire a single projectile(bullet).The Crown U is the mark for the View Proof, which is really a detailed inspection. The 7.6mm/46 is the bore(not groove or bullet) diameter, and case length. Other rifles I have observed with this bore diameter had a groove diameter of about .312". This is a little tight, but quite common. The 3,28( the Germans use a , where we would use a .) means it was proofed in March of 1928. The 284 is the register number. At this time, Suhl did not mark the guns with register numbers, so it was proofed in Zella- Mehilis. The "BOHLER STAHL" with stars is the type(and likely grade) of steel, the barrel was made from. Other marks such as mm The shield inclosing U A and Z are touch marks of barrel maker and other workmen completing some part of the work. Since it was proofed in Z-M, it was likely made there or near there. Others on this board will likely be able to ID the other marks and may chime in.
Mike

[mike ford]

Pat,
The date is the proof date, not the manufacture date. They are not the same, but may or may not be close.
Mike

[Axel E]

Mike is right in interpreting most of the marks. The rifle was merely retailed by Karl Läuger, Teichstrasse 5, Lörrach in Baden, south - western Germany, died 1945. The real maker of the rifle is revealed by his trademark "UAZ in shield", the Udo Anschuetz, Zella - Mehlis company, founded 1848, in 1928 at Grosse Bahnhofstrasse 22, Zella-Mehlis. Udo A., besides still existing in Ulm J.G.Anschuetz, was one of the best known of the 86 Anschuetzes active in the guntrade there over the times. MM is the renowned target rifle barrel maker Max Möller, Forstgasse 19, Zella - Mehlis. His MM is found on many Z-M Schuetzen rifles by several makers.

[PatBig]

Many thanks to both, the data about my rifle is now even more complete than I thought possible.
Patrick

Mike is right in interpreting most of the marks. The rifle was merely retailed by Karl Läuger, Teichstrasse 5, Lörrach in Baden, south - western Germany, died 1945. The real maker of the rifle is revealed by his trademark "UAZ in shield", the Udo Anschuetz, Zella - Mehlis company, founded 1848, in 1928 at Grosse Bahnhofstrasse 22, Zella-Mehlis. Udo A., besides still existing in Ulm J.G.Anschuetz, was one of the best known of the 86 Anschuetzes active in the guntrade there over the times. MM is the renowned target rifle barrel maker Max Möller, Forstgasse 19, Zella - Mehlis. His MM is found on many Z-M Schuetzen rifles by several makers.