New member - Gehert im Munchen 9.5X47R ornate rifle

[PatBig]

Hello, I am a new member, I live in Western France close to the sea and I am a member of a local shooting club. About 10 years ago I bought at an auction a very nice rifle with a Martini action, signed Gehert im Munchen. After some research I finally identified the caliber as 9.5X47R, slugged the barrel and had a custom mold made, and found correct Bertram brass, though I later discovered 45-70 brass could be a donor. A German collector told me to use a load of 14 grains of VV N110 powder, which I have been happily doing since. I have not been able to find any information about the maker, Gehert in Munich, and the hunting and shooting museum in Munich never answered when I sent them a letter with pictures. The rifle is in excellent condition and very accurate, I typically shoot at 110 yards, 100 meters. The engravings on both sides of the receiver show plump little naked ladies, a bit unusual. Underneath it's a more traditional stag. The forehand has an upside down dog's head, the butt has a big eagle on the right side and deer on the left. At the start the barrel has some silver and gold inlaid scrolls.
Besides documenting the gun's existence, I'd be very happy to get help finding more information about Ggehert left side.jpggehert diopter butt.jpggehert receiver right.jpggehert lever .jpgehert.

[Axel E]

You slightly misread the name. It must be Karl Gebert, Landwehrstr. 28, Munich, "Hofbüchsenmacher" = gunmaker to His Royal Highness Prince Ludwig of Bavaria. Gebert died in 1917, shop taken over by Karl Messner.
Such little "Putti", meaning to depict the Roman god Amor, who shot arrows to induce love, are a quite common decorations on Schuetzen rifles.
For identifying the Martini Action variation Gebert retailed, get a copy of "Alte Sceibenwaffen Volume 2", by Tom Rowe and others, availble at the GGCA bookstore:
http://www.germanguns.com/storefinalbooks.html

[PatBig]

Thanks for your infos, looking at the pics (I don't have the rifle with me right now) the exact signature then is "C. Gebert im Munchen" all of it gothic characters I don't know if the C equals a K. I have attached a picture the quality isn't great I'll do better in two weeks when I am reunited with the gun. Also there's a number on the buttplate and a proof mark on the barrel, I'll get pictures when I can.

You slightly misread the name. It must be Karl Gebert, Landwehrstr. 28, Munich, "Hofbüchsenmacher" = gunmaker to His Royal Highness Prince Ludwig of Bavaria. Gebert died in 1917, shop taken over by Karl Messner.
Such little "Putti", meaning to depict the Roman god Amor, who shot arrows to induce love, are a quite common decorations on Schuetzen rifles.
For identifying the Martini Action variation Gebert retailed, get a copy of "Alte Sceibenwaffen Volume 2", by Tom Rowe and others, availble at the GGCA bookstore:
http://www.germanguns.com/storefinalbooks.html

[Axel E]

Many German names, both of persons and names, were written with a C instead of a K formerly. The City Kassel was Cassel before 1920. So Carl and Karl are interchangeable. Often the same person altered the spelling over the years.

[PatBig]

Thanks, i'm glad I joined that's the most I learned about my rifle since I bought it. I ordered the book you recommended.
Patrick