what powder in your german schuetzen......

[jime444]

what's your powder type and load for your german schuetzen rifle?
Thanks in advance.
Jim

[Diz]

jime444, you are going to have to tell us what cartridge it is first and some detail on your rifle would help too. I wouldn't want to guess on this one. Thanks, Diz

[sharps4590]

Mine is a real oddball. It appears it may have been based on the 8.15 X 50R, blown out to a straight taper. Groove diameter of .345 and I never measured the bore dia. For this unusual cartridge I settled on 15 grs. of IMR-4227 under a 0.348 cast bullet of 176 grs., depending on the exact alloy. Shoots well.

For yours....without knowing what cartridge it's chambered for, who knows?

[yamoon]

I shoot an 8.15x46r. My load is 14gr IMR 4227 behind a 170gr stop ring cast 25 to 1. Remington 9 1/2 primer.
Thanks Mike

[jime444]

sorry, mines a '27 Buchel, 8.15x46R; RWS brass is a perfect fit. so, 4227, 5744 or 4759? 4759 has been problematic to get. shooting a 1-20/25 stop ring, about 170gr.
how about primers, mine has a pretty light strike, Feds or Rem 9.5? or, something else.

first groups at 100yds are about 2 inches or so; 5 shot.

[sharps4590]

My 8.15 X 46R in a Bartles stalking rifle settled in at 12 grs. of SR-4759 and a 180 gr., gas checked bullet, not a stop ring. My Haenel/Aydt Schuetzen rifle also has a light primer strike and that was cured by using large pistol primers.

My experience with Schuetzen rifles is limited to one rifle and with the original aperture sight and it's favored load it will shoot better than 2 inch groups at 100. If I'm up to my part off a rest it will usually break 1 inch.

[DreyseM65]

I am relatively new to the Schützen world. I use large pistol primers because my Jung has a light primer strike problem. My Adyt is fine. I use IMR4227 and I am still testing loads for accuracy. Usually 13 grains with a 160 grain gas check bullet. Tomorrow I will try some bullets listed as 180 grain, but they weigh in at around 175.

[Diz]

jime444,

I believe Hodgdon discontinued all the SR series of powders several years ago and they are very difficult to find now. I think they were being made in Canada and that had something to do with being expensive. I like 4227 for these purposes myself and should give good results.

Thanks, Diz

[sharps4590]

Just had a memory flash. I've used Reloader #7 with pretty decent results.

[mike ford]

I don't shoot formal competition, but for informal shooting I use a good bit of Unique, with a tuft of kapok tamped over it. This is controversial, so you have to decide for your self about the kapok.
Mike

[DreyseM65]

I brought my load back to 12 grs of 4227. And have had some great results recently. That is also the load recommended to me by several experienced Schützen rifle shooters.

[30calmike]

I’m new to this forum. I have an Anschuetz 8.15X46R built in 1928. The last three years I have been shooting a lot of cast bullet competition with larger calibers. The Schuetzen rifle seemed interesting and I have enjoyed shooting it. As with my other cast bulllet rifles, I use Blackhorn 209 powder. I find the full case loads to be very consistent. I had a mold made by Accurate Molds to fit the bore correctly. I have a stop ring mold and have made up some rounds with these, but so far the other bullets seem better. Always looking to do it better. I’m enjoying the input from this forum.
Mike.

[mike ford]

Mike,
I'm glad to find someone with experience with Blackhorn 209, is it corrosive?
Mike

[Axel E]

The standard powder for 8.15x46R lead bullet target loads here in Germany is VV N110, charges from 11 to 14 gr. But a fact more important than powder selection and often disregarded: 8.15x46R barrels came with widely varying twist rates. So measure the twist rate of your barrel before ordering a bullet mould. Barrels with rifling twists from 25 – 35 cm = one turn in 10 to 13.7" were intended for bullets in the 150 – 180 gr range, while barrels with longer twist rates were meant for bullets up to 150 gr. only.

[30calmike]

Mike,
I'm glad to find someone with experience with Blackhorn 209, is it corrosive?
Mike

Hello Mike,
The BH209 is not corrosive, but does leave behind some fouling that should be cleaned out after shooting. The residue is not corrosive nor does it affect accuracy. I suspect it may attract moisture so I clean after each match.
I use this in 45-70, 40-65, 38-55, 32-40, 30 WCF and 45 Colt. I also have had excellent results in some muzzle loaders but need to use 209 primers. Works best with no air space and just a little compression. I wish it was less expensive and easier to buy. I look for good prices on 5 lb bottles and usually get two or four at a time. In my single shot rifles, I have had excellent results out as far as 600 yards. Don’t understand why more don’t use it.
Mike.