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I FOUND THIS JOHANN PETERLONGO MAUSER SAFARI RIFLE IN 11.2x72 CALIBER

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    I FOUND THIS JOHANN PETERLONGO MAUSER SAFARI RIFLE IN 11.2x72 CALIBER

    I FOUND THIS JOHANN PETERLONGO MAUSER SAFARI RIFLE IN 11.2x72 CALIBER

    I had been searching for quite some time for a Big Bore Safari rifle that was built in my birth Country of Austria,

    Well, I just added this one to my collection. It looks unfired in 99% original condition. It was brought to the U.S. from Austria by the family's grandfather - and it was likely never fired because there was no ammo available in this country.

    Please feel free to comment. I'm still smiling ear to ear.



    http://www.buckstix.com/buckpics/pla-000.jpg < --- see pictures here
    "You never pay too much for something - you only buy it too early"
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    Congratulations, Buckstix! You found a very rare, pre-WW1, rifle for the 11.2x72 Sch?ler cartridge still in original, unaltered shape.
    The Peterlongo, Innsbruck, Austria business was run by Richard Mahrholdt since 1898, see:
    https://www.germanhuntingguns.com/ab...bruck-austria/
    (BTW, there is a 1908 ad for a “11.2 mm Peterlongo” Mauser for big game, but apparently still for a 11.2x60 Sch?ler, + some quotes from German colonial officials. It shows both half- and fullstock rifles like this one.)
    Mahrholdt came from the Suhl area and had best connections to many German gunmakers.
    This rifle was built on a commercial Mauser, Oberndorf action as sold to other gunmakers. The Mauser serial number 26311 dates the action to 1908. That’s the only German marking I see in the photos, everything else is Austrian. The completed rifle was proofed two times, preliminary and final Nitro proof, by the Ferlach, Austria proofhouse in1909. The barrel is made of steel from the B?hler steelworks in Kapfenberg, Austria. “11,3” mm is the rounded up groove diameter. I don’t know what the “C322” on the bolthandle and “A.R.” under the barrel stand for.
    Imho this rifle was built entirely in Austria, Innsbruck or Ferlach. As the Mauser patents were still valid pre-WW1, any gunmaker had to buy an action from Oberndorf first to build a 98 action rifle.
    Waidmannsheil!
    Axel

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    • #3
      Hello Azel E,
      Thank you for the detailed information about the rifle.

      Its hard to see in the bolt handle number in the picture. The bolt handle number is numbered "6328" which does not match the rifle action number of "26311". However, there is a small number "10" on the other side of the bolt handle. You can see in the same number "10" in the pictures on the bottom of the action, and on the bottom of the barrel. There is also a number "10" on the wedge. The trigger-guard assembly is numbered "311" which matches the last 3 numbers of the action number. I added a picture of the magazine spacer which is made of steel, not brass like those on the Schuler made rifles.
      "You never pay too much for something - you only buy it too early"

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      • #4
        St Patrick,s day was yesterday, so why am I green ENVY. Great find.
        Mike

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        • #5
          Originally posted by buckstix View Post
          Its hard to see in the bolt handle number in the picture. The bolt handle number is numbered "6328" which does not match the rifle action number of "26311". However, there is a small number "10" on the other side of the bolt handle. You can see in the same number "10" in the pictures on the bottom of the action, and on the bottom of the barrel. There is also a number "10" on the wedge. The trigger-guard assembly is numbered "311" which matches the last 3 numbers of the action number. I added a picture of the magazine spacer which is made of steel, not brass like those on the Schuler made rifles.
          I take the „10“ as an assembly number by the shop that put the rifle together. Such assembly numbers served the purpose of keeping the fitted parts sorted during futher steps of hardening, polishing, bluing and so on.
          Apparently the gunsmithes did not care much about keeping bought in Mauser parts sorted by Mauser serial numbers. It’s not unusual to find parts of several Mauser actions combined in one pre-WW1 rifle. Here the bolt from action number 26328 was used to complete action number 26311. Another such mixup may be seen in an old thread about a 9.3x62 rifle by Foerster, Berlin. On that rifle receiver and bottom metal of two 1908 commercial Mauser actions were combined with an even older Mauser bolt, see:
          http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post231353

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          • #6
            Hello

            Close, but no cigar. Nevermind, I have stopped smoking. I miss it, though.

            TrademarkB?hlerStahlonMauser11,2x72.jpg
            Buckstix.jpg

            Gebr?der B?hler had many trademarks. Not all of them were stamped on guns.

            Peter

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