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    Help with proof marks - Buchel Schuetzen - Aydt Action - Safety Interlock button

    Hello All,

    I recently purchased this Schuetzen rifle and would like help
    determining the proof marks and letter above and below the
    images.

    BUCHEL-000.jpg

    BUCHEL-0000.jpg



    BUCHEL-00.jpg

    Last edited by buckstix; 06-15-2022, 12:14 PM.
    "You never pay too much for something - you only buy it too early"

  • #2
    172,28 = .300-.309 (according to the GGCA main web site)
    12[.]09 = December 1909
    806 = 806th gun proofed in December (1909)

    I have nothing on the letters and the crown S

    EDIT: Beschussanstalt Zella St. Blasii/Mehlis (Zella-Mehlis)

    Peter
    Last edited by algmule; 06-15-2022, 01:12 PM. Reason: Poor memory

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    • #3
      GESL: GESCH. = gesetzlich geschuetzt = (design or inlay) protected by law, (copyright !)
      Last edited by Axel E; 06-15-2022, 03:12 PM.

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      • #4
        Axel,
        Copyrighted images are pretty uncommon on the guns we are interested in so they are not likely to be images of "generic" personalities. Do they represent some historical figures, or maybe identify some particular company or organization?
        Mike

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        • #5
          Mike, look close. These two decorations are no hand engravings, but simply machine made, coined or pressed metal plates serving as cheap decorations on Schuetzen rifles. Such plates were often inletted into recesses milled into the flat sides of receivers or merely soldered or glued on. A bit of line engraving surrounding them made a rifle look quite impressive, like this one. Until a few years ago there was a shop in Rothenburg o.T. offering such and other, like game animals and birds, for the same purpose. The 1908 Akah catalog offered even pressed wood “Schuetzen stock carvings” for inletting and gluing into rifle buttstocks. Such fake engravings and carvings were quite popular pre-WW1. As they were mass produced more or less, I was quite worthwhile for the inventor to have his generic pictures or even his way to attaching protected by copyright or DRGM.

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          • #6
            Axel,
            Thanks a lot. There used to be an interesting gunsmith in Rothenburg/ Tauber also.
            Mike

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            • #7
              Looks more like a Buchel Meister. Has the reversed forward trigger.
              Mike

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              • #8
                Originally posted by yamoon View Post
                Looks more like a Buchel Meister. Has the reversed forward trigger.
                Mike
                The description calls it a "Buechel Meister", not an "Aydt action".

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mike ford View Post
                  Axel,
                  Thanks a lot. There used to be an interesting gunsmith in Rothenburg/ Tauber also.
                  Mike
                  Most likely the same shop, Rothenburger Waffeneck, see Rothenburger Waffeneck von Rothenburger Waffeneck J?rgen Hense... (vdb-waffen.de)

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                  • #10
                    Axel,
                    That is the same shop, it has been 50 years since I was there. I'm happy they are still in business, maybe a son or grandson.
                    Mike

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