Wunder & Gunther, Leipzig pistol

[mike ford]

R. Marshall,
The crown B is the mark for a single definitive proof, made with provisional proof charge. The crown G shows it was proofed for a single projectile (bullet). The crown U is for a view proof, which is a detailed inspection after definitive proof, including confirmation of dimensions. The 527 is the bore(not groove or bullet) diameter, as expressed in gauge measurement. This is about 5.25mm. I'm guessing the "W G" is for Wunder and Guenter ,but since it already has the company name on the barrel, it may be something entirely different( like a workman's mark). I don't recognize the logo, but maybe someone else does. It may, or may not be the logo of the gunshop or the actual maker. The "1" may be the serial number, but I wouldn't get too excited about it. It is not likely the first one ever made. The actual maker could number them to the gunshop's serial number series. There is no way now to know.
Mike

[R. Marshall]

R. Marshall,
The crown B is the mark for a single definitive proof, made with provisional proof charge. The crown G shows it was proofed for a single projectile (bullet). The crown U is for a view proof, which is a detailed inspection after definitive proof, including confirmation of dimensions. The 527 is the bore(not groove or bullet) diameter, as expressed in gauge measurement. This is about 5.25mm. I'm guessing the "W G" is for Wunder and Guenter ,but since it already has the company name on the barrel, it may be something entirely different( like a workman's mark). I don't recognize the logo, but maybe someone else does. It may, or may not be the logo of the gunshop or the actual maker. The "1" may be the serial number, but I wouldn't get too excited about it. It is not likely the first one ever made. The actual maker could number them to the gunshop's serial number series. There is no way now to know.
Mike

Thanks Mike, I've searched the web over and have found some barrels are marked 527 and some 611 and all are "BUG" marked, but I've not seen what maybe a Iris stamp on them.

[mike ford]

R.Marshall,
611 is also for bore diameter, it works out to 5.00 mm.
Mike

[R. Marshall]

R.Marshall,
611 is also for bore diameter, it works out to 5.00 mm.
Mike

Ok thanks, I wonder if there would be any markings under the grip?

[R. Marshall]

I took the grip stock off and found the number “1” stamped on three visiable parts and the initial “AW” in script letters stamped twice and the number “1154” stamped once in the bottom of the wood grip under the heavy metal cap and ring.

[yamoon]

Mine is also a Wunder & Gunther also.

[yamoon]

I will try again

[R. Marshall]

Sweet, What markings are under the forearm?

[yamoon]

Mine has the exact same markings except where yours has a 1 mine has a 2. I now know why I have to hold low at 25 yards shooting standard velocity 22lr. I will be shooting 22 shorts from now on.
Mike

[yamoon]

Stotzer Perfekt Pistole

Not to hijack the thread, but thought you might enjoy my favorite pistol. It has the crown over marks & 5.2mm. Serial number 288 on frame & barrel & 5121 on the barrel.
Mike

[mike ford]

yamoon,

The bore diameter shown as 5.2mm indicates your pistol was made after 1911.
Mike

[yamoon]

Thanks Mike

[R. Marshall]

Mine has the exact same markings except where yours has a 1 mine has a 2. I now know why I have to hold low at 25 yards shooting standard velocity 22lr. I will be shooting 22 shorts from now on.
Mike

I wonder if they were a set at one time being numbered 1 & 2?

[R. Marshall]

Not to hijack the thread, but thought you might enjoy my favorite pistol. It has the crown over marks & 5.2mm. Serial number 288 on frame & barrel & 5121 on the barrel.
Mike

very nice pistol. If I purchase another one I would like a Buchel system.

[R. Marshall]

A few more pictures.