Markings on Remo Popular

[algmule]

Hello

One of the markings looks like G.A, or possibly G.R and the other is an S that looks like the ordinary Schrot S from the proof facility only it has something to the right of it which looks unfamiliar. Shotgun passed the facility in Suhl March 1928. Here are the images
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Any ideas? I did find a four barrelled pistol on the web which had G.R on it and it was claimed it was for Gebrüder Rempt which would make sense for the possible G.R on the Remo Popular as Gebrüder Rempt held the patent for that one. The shotgun is not mine, however, I too am blessed with owning a Remo Popular only it doesn't say so on the gun itself, only D.R.P. If my coffee works today I may go and have a look for markings on it.

Kind regards
Peter

[mike ford]

Peter,
The crown S, does designate shot barrels. The mark next to it looks like the Provisional Proof mark for barrels. The small marks on all these guns are very difficult to know, there is no legend to show their meaning. It could very well be that the GR stands for Gebrueder Rempt ; Remo is their trademark.
Mike

[algmule]

Hello

Just to make sure we all know what I'm talking about.
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I know very well what crown S is but thanks anyway. Remo, and different guns marked so I've been researching since late April/early May 2013 and I've seen a "document" telling that trademark/tradename was protected from 1910 onwards. If it existed (ie was used by Gebrüder Rempt) earlier than 1910 I don't know but I intend to find out.

Also: this is not an OCP, it's more of a clarification. Sorry for being unintelligible.

Kind regards
Peter

[ellenbr]

Moose Snoot:

I'd hazard a guess the "Su" is some residual of a "Suhl" stamp & the other a GP stamp of some P mechanic of Suhl or Liege w/ the first initial G?

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

[algmule]

Raimey,

Thanks. I also recall having seen a marking somewhat akin to the below (yes, it's my doodling) I just can't remember where and on what gun. Not likely to find it again due to the marketing division of the year.
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The second image in my first post, there the marking is the same as in the first image so more likely G.A or G.R than G.P. I dragged the image through some Photoshop offspring and what with my computer skills . . . . . . . . I'm leaning towards G.A as the left "leg" of the letter slants slightly to the right, but then again, it's stamped on a round surface.

Kind regards
Peter

[ellenbr]

Moose Snoot:

The S in the SU is very typical of the Ss seen in Suhl stamps w/ the S having perpendicular truncations where the S commences & terminates. Also on the GP too I don't see the perpendicular truncations pointing back to the base of the P but just some stray marks. But who knows for now w/ the stray and worn touchmarks.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

[ellenbr]

Moose Snoot:

Is that that the term "Nitro" stamped on the side of tube?

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

[algmule]

Raimey,

yes, "Nitro" on the left side of the receiver. Other than that the thing has all the required proof markings. It is marked as most Remo Populars I've seen - "Remo-Popular" and "Made in Germany Patented"

Kind regards
Peter

[Steve Whitley]

For what it is worth, the "G.R." mark appears on some few of the barrels for DSM 34s assembled by Haenel for the consortium which built trainers in 34-35 in Suhl. Rempt was the lead firm for that group, and (along with various other Suhl gun makers) finished some of the Roechlingstahl barrels for those little rifles. With so few players involved in that consortium, I have little to no doubt that the "G.R." stands for Gebrüder Rempt.
Steve

[ellenbr]

That's a tasty tid-bit of info.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

[algmule]

Hello

Steve Whitley,
thanks, and may we have an image of a "G.R." from a DSM 34?

Also, coffee finally kicked in so I disassembled my Remo Popular. Passed the facility in Suhl in January 1928. It does not have any other markings than the proofs.

EDIT: my Remo Popular is a 12 gauge.
Kind regards
Peter