Help me ID this combination gun; new member

[Axel E]

As these "Roux"-action over-under combinations usually have Blitzlocks, lockwork mounted on the triggerplate, neither taking the gun apart to get at the firing pins nor reassembly is a problem. Just start with the gun cocked and use fitting screwdrivers. No special tools or spanners needed unless you want to disassemble the locks too, unnecessary if you want to get at the firing pins only..

[mike ford]

Will_Paladin,
Champlin is well known, all over. No doubt they can do the work, even though they generally work on different type guns. I generally cite the gunsmiths that support us, because of loyalty. As to Axels point, a spanner might be required to clear the rear of the firing pin protruding from the bushing that holds it in. Such a spanner is extremely simple to make by filing a clearance into the center of the screwdriver, while it is being filed to fit the slot in the bushing. As to Diz's point, a new tip can often be made and set into the original rear part of the firing pin( if it hasn't been lost over the years). Sometimes the bushing will be found to be broken in half, through the spanner slots. I have found that it is sometimes possible to reuse a broken bushing by holding the parts together and carefully turning them back into the hole, where once turned in they will hold as before ( I would think now that we have modern adhesives the parts could be glued together, and be simple to reinstall).
Mike

[Diz]

Mike,

Good points and advice on the pin and bushing. I am surprised at your mention of it possibly being cracked. This is a common problem with exposed hammer guns and I have more than once put a slit one back in to save time and money. Usually you can't even see the crack and never had one come out. I thought I was the only one that did that!

Axel thanks for pointing out the possible trigger plate action. That would simplify the whole operation. I am not sure how common they are with German guns.

Thanks, Diz

[mike ford]

Diz,
I had to make a new firing pin for my very first drilling and the bushing in it was broken. Since that was over 50 years ago, I'm surprised ,myself, that I can still remember it.
Mike

[Axel E]

the possible trigger plate action. I am not sure how common they are with German guns.

Very common! About 80% of all hammerless Drillings and 50% of over-under combinations have Blitzschlosse = trigger plate locks. Most often they are mistaken as boxlocks.

[Diz]

Axel, Thank you, I didn't think they were that prevalent and must have mistaken more than a few for box locks. Most likely passed over a couple of good ones because of it. I know to look closer next time.

Mike, about that time I was a summer apprentice machinist at Dunellen Machine in New Jersey building M1 carbines. That's where it all started.

Thanks, Diz

[mike ford]

Diz,
At least you had a good teacher, I was self taught and had a poor one.
Mike

[Diz]

Mike, I am just going to say this straight out. You far surpass many others with your skill level and the wealth of knowledge you are willing to share is extraordinary. I appreciate it. Same with Axel and Sharps as well as many others. Thanks, Diz

[sharps4590]

I have to concur with Diz comment about you and Axel as well as several others, Mark and Nathaniel come quickly to mind. Me, I'm pretty good at sharing BS....