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    Hello
    I thought the membership might enjoy a look at my wife's fathers day present. I saw this rifle in an online auction, there was very little description, even though I have had some bad experiences with online auctions I decided to take a chance. I am very happy with the result. The only marks on the rifle are "A Tomann Worgl Tirol" there is a serial number under the forend, no proof marks of any kind. When the rifle arrived I was very surprised at how small & lite weight it is, a little under 7 lbs. It has a 23 3/8 round barrel with a full length rib, the rifling is strong with no pitting. The action is a true falling block measuring 1.9" deep, 1.45" thick & 2.18" long. There is a small lever on the left side of the action, on my other German guns with this type of lever it is used to allow removing the block & lever for cleaning. I unscrewed it several turns & it came out, to my great surprise this is a take down pin, the little rifle separates just behind the action. The metal flag on the top of the wrist is a grip safety. There is a small lever ahead of the grip safety that is turned 90 degrees to allow depressing the grip safety. The grip safety is marked "Patent Tambour No 1148". The chamber cast leaves no doubt it is chambered for 8x50mmR Austrian. 1 in 12 twist, bore dia is .326.
    Any information would be appreciated.
    Mike
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    Wow, very nice rifle, would love to have it.......
    And - very similar to mine......


    Josef Tambour was an engineer and gunsmith in Vienna, he holded several patents. Some of these belong to safeties on Handguns and automatic pistols. I try to get No.1148 and will post it.
    Anton Tomann was an gunsmith and dealer in the city Wörgl located in Tirol / Austria.
    Could you make an pic from inside of the lockplate?

    Austrias prooflaw was introduced in 1892, so maybe it was made before.
    Last edited by chapmen; 05-22-2016, 11:06 AM.
    http://www.jagdwaffensammler.de

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    • #3
      That is a beautiful rifle. Pardon me while I wipe the drool from my chin.....

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      • #4
        Chapmen
        Thank you for the information. I have another rifle by A Tomann, it is a schuetzen in 8.15x46r. I have not fired it. It has no proof marks also. I ordered 100 rnds of 7.62x54r Russian brass to form into 8x50. I have only had the rifle a few days, I will remove the lock plate and take some photos. I hope to use it on Kansas white tail deer this winter.
        Mike

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        • #5
          I second Sharps 4590's comment. You can also use 8x56R Hungarian from PRVI cases.
          Mike
          Last edited by mike ford; 05-22-2016, 03:12 PM.

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          • #6
            Really neat gun....

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            • #7
              These Austrian falling block actions are copies of Alexander Henry's, Edinburgh, 1869 design, made long after the original British patents expired and some after Henry sold his last such rifle in 1901. The take down feature, pating buttstock and sidelock from action body, was an Austrian invention, unknown on original Henry rifles. Henry used an unique take-down mechanism himself, seperating barrel and action in a more conventional way. I have seen such "Austrian Henrys" signed by several Ferlach gunmakers, besides Springer, Vienna, Kaletzky, Vienna, Novotny, Prag, and Peterlongo, Innsbruck. IMHO these actions were all made in one Austrian shop, to be finished and sold by several gunmaakers all over the Austro-Hungarian empire.

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              • #8
                Thanks Axel

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                • #9
                  Here's one very similar one to yamoon's from Ogris in Ferlach/ Kärnten, Austria:

                  not dated, i think around 1900
                  Last edited by chapmen; 05-23-2016, 08:59 PM.
                  http://www.jagdwaffensammler.de

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                  • #10
                    edit, double post.
                    Last edited by chapmen; 05-23-2016, 08:56 PM.
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                    • #11
                      I thought it had a bit of a Henry look. Now I know why. I too thank you for that Axel!

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                      • #12
                        Those "Austrian Henrys" look like a lot of fun, would like to come about one myself someday. Nice to see the two variations, thanks for posting.

                        Yamoon,

                        Quite the Father's Day present.

                        Regards,

                        Mark
                        Last edited by Büchsemann; 05-25-2016, 03:10 AM.

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                        • #13
                          That is truly a lovely rifle. I do have one question, are you leaving on the scope?

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                          • #14
                            Such "Austrian Henry's" were already discussed in "Waidmannsheil # 43 and 44" (a publication of the GGCA) some years ago, 2010.

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                            • #15
                              Thanks Axel, I'll go back and check it out. Seems I had seen them earlier, should have figured it was in our club magazine.

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