Drilling and trigger questions!

[jcf1]

Firstly, hello! I've joined up after purchasing an old drilling, which I'd like to know a little more about. I'll primarily be using it for woodland Roe stalking. It appears to be proofed in 1930, so certainly a gun with some age. Chambered in 8x57IR and 16g. Its in excellent condition, other than the woodwork - chequering is understandably quite flat, but the metalwork is excellent. One thing I am struggling with is the trigger pull weight, which is very heavy.

I understand these tend to have a heavier pull, but this one is very heavy indeed. I expected the screw pictured on the front trigger to adjust pull weight but it seems to do little if anything to adjust it. Am I missing something?

The drilling is marked with Waffenhaus Munzel, Koblenz. I've not been able to find a great deal of information on the maker, so anything would be appreciated. The only info I have come across is in this article: http://handwerk-special.de/ausgabe/19971128/59_08.php

Anyway - any guidance on the trigger would be great, otherwise here are some pics!

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[jcf1]

Just a couple more pictures

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[sharps4590]

That looks a lot like my Meffert with a Dural receiver. Is your receiver silvered, case worn off, or is it a Dural receiver?

Reference your trigger, are you setting it first? You do know it's single set, yes? Push it forward until it clicks then it should be pretty light.

Pull the forearm and remove the barrels. On the bottom of all the barrels should be a lot of stampings. Clear, legible pictures of the stampings, proof marks, will tell a great deal about your drilling.

[Diz]

Sharps I believe is correct about this being a single set trigger and pushing it forward should set it. However, if you moved the adjustment screw very much you may find that I won't set properly or hold at all. A small adjustment is usually all that is needed to change the trigger release when it is set. Others I am sure can add a lot to this. Good clear photos of all the markings are a must. Nice combination gun and good luck with it. Diz

[jcf1]

Thanks, I'll post some photographs of the markings. I also assumed it would be a set trigger, but pushing forward does not set it at all.

[jcf1]

Also, not sure how I would tell if it was a dural receiver?

[jcf1]

Aha - good strip and clean and it now sets perfectly. A lot of gunk in the action, but probably to be expected in a 90 yr old gun. VERY light though and the adjustment trigger doesn't make a great deal of difference to pull weight.

[jcf1]

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[sharps4590]

Good deal!!! Gunk messes with a lot of stuff! A Dural receiver will not be attracted to a magnet. I can't make out much on the rifle barrel and am just plain stupid when it comes to operating a computer. The shotgun barrels are 2 1/2 chambers, the 16 in a circle, unless they've been opened and both barrels were originally choked, the crown over "W".

[jcf1]

In which case - it's not a dural/alloy receiver - definitely steel. Barrels are marked Krupp Laufstahl, with nitro proof marks and serial same as receiver - 515. 7.8 over 57mm indicates .318 or 8x57IR bore. 5/30 mark dates it as May 1930 proofing. Other proof marks are just indicating smoothbore/rifle. I can't see anything else of significance?

[mike ford]

jcfi,
The screw is not intended to adjust the "pull weight", it only adjusts the engagement of the set trigger. As such, it adjusts the "pull weight" of only the set trigger from "light" to "too light", to not engaging. The pull weight will stay the same when the trigger is unset( as for the shot barrel, for instance).
Mike

[jcf1]

Thanks Mike - do you mean that it affects the weight of the trigger only once actually set? If so - it doesn't seem to affect that much at all.

[sharps4590]

That should be about it.

[mike ford]

jcf1,
Yes, that's exactly what I mean. A very light trigger is very nice on a rifle, but very dangerous on a shotgun. I use set triggers ( both single and double) all the time and very often that makes the difference between "meat in the freezer" and a miss. If you learn how to use them, you won't want to hunt without one. Just remember to only set it right before shooting. If something happens that you don't take the shot, open the gun and touch the trigger to unset it. My German gunsmith friend ,Walter Grass, always said it is more dangerous to hunt with a trigger set, and the safety on, than with the safety off, but the trigger unset.
Mike