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There is a few fella's on this board who have helped me with their advice, experience and insight into the old German firearms I have come to enjoy so much. I've been handloading several decades, black powder and smokeless, but extreme case forming was a somewhat new endeavor. That and being led to a knowledge of the ballistics of several old German cartridges was the greatest assistance.
Hopefully all that help comes to fruition somewhere along the line. This afternoon the best results attained with all the help you guys have given me made its appearance. The last rifle I acquired, the Johan Outschar, Ferlach, turned in a performance any one would be proud of. I was! Very proud! First person that came to mind was Mike Ford. When I first became....let me call it "re-excited"....about German firearms he helped with a lot of case forming, loading stuff, knowledge and goodies. Axel has helped me, sometimes directly and often indirectly just from reading his past posts and articles in Waidsmannsheil and Der Waffenschmied. Diz hasn't been around as long but he's dropped a few pearls of knowledge along the way already. Others whom I have shamefully forgotten their names helped with comments and suggestions. Well....anyway, here's what I wanted to post.
It's a good group, 5/8 in. C to C. That ain't no thing if it was fired with a bolt rifle wearing a scope shooting jacketed bullets and tailored handloads. That group was fired with open sights at 100 yards using a front rest and butt bag...utilizing Mike's favorite propellant, black powder, 58 grains of Scheitzen Fffg dropped through a 24 inch tube. An over powder card was .020, then a pea sized grease cookie, another .020 card wad then a 203 gr. bullet cast 25-1 from an Accurate mold. Lube and cookie were about 25% beeswax and 75% castor oil. I didn't clean between shots, just blew through the barrel with my mouth, didn't even use a blow tube. 1st shot is directly beneath the "S" in Bogg's Creek. 2nd is in the 5 ring. I made another sight picture adjustment then fired the 3 shot group. Not bad for a 62 year old man who wears glasses, shooting open sights and a 130+ year old rifle!!! Thanks guys!!!
Hopefully all that help comes to fruition somewhere along the line. This afternoon the best results attained with all the help you guys have given me made its appearance. The last rifle I acquired, the Johan Outschar, Ferlach, turned in a performance any one would be proud of. I was! Very proud! First person that came to mind was Mike Ford. When I first became....let me call it "re-excited"....about German firearms he helped with a lot of case forming, loading stuff, knowledge and goodies. Axel has helped me, sometimes directly and often indirectly just from reading his past posts and articles in Waidsmannsheil and Der Waffenschmied. Diz hasn't been around as long but he's dropped a few pearls of knowledge along the way already. Others whom I have shamefully forgotten their names helped with comments and suggestions. Well....anyway, here's what I wanted to post.
It's a good group, 5/8 in. C to C. That ain't no thing if it was fired with a bolt rifle wearing a scope shooting jacketed bullets and tailored handloads. That group was fired with open sights at 100 yards using a front rest and butt bag...utilizing Mike's favorite propellant, black powder, 58 grains of Scheitzen Fffg dropped through a 24 inch tube. An over powder card was .020, then a pea sized grease cookie, another .020 card wad then a 203 gr. bullet cast 25-1 from an Accurate mold. Lube and cookie were about 25% beeswax and 75% castor oil. I didn't clean between shots, just blew through the barrel with my mouth, didn't even use a blow tube. 1st shot is directly beneath the "S" in Bogg's Creek. 2nd is in the 5 ring. I made another sight picture adjustment then fired the 3 shot group. Not bad for a 62 year old man who wears glasses, shooting open sights and a 130+ year old rifle!!! Thanks guys!!!
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