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  • #16
    Originally posted by ellenbr View Post
    One thing that just might be odd is why is the extractor for a double riding lower on what would be a lower tube
    This extractor was part of the Francois Eugene Schneider, Rue Gaillon 13, Paris, original patent, French # 46957 of 1860, British # 1487 of 1861, for the Roux snap action gun as a centerfire. So it was the first extractor design for a "modern" centerfire. Centerfire guns, other than the earlier pinfires, needed an extractor. The early gunmakers shied away from boring holes in between the chambers to take an extractor stem, as with the primitive tools available to them boring bit runout was feared.
    Last edited by Axel E; 08-07-2014, 04:22 PM.

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    • #17
      It would sure be a neat old piece to bring back to life in the field. Interesting post and great information.

      Mark

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      • #18
        Hum, interesting tid-bit of info on the Francois Eugene Schneider, Rue Gaillon 13, Paris, original patent, French # 46957 of 1860, British # 1487 of 1861. So at 2 items can be derived from that: one being that it would date the sporting weapon to post 1861 and two some sharp mechanic applied that aspect to the drilling platform.

        Kind Regards,

        Raimey
        rse

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        • #19
          Hello

          Not that anyone is interested but I would like to put a full stop to C. Biedermann, Berlin. If my archeological work is correctly executed, and why wouldn't it be, it was a rather short lived enterprise for Biedermann in Berlin. Address was Wallstra?e 16 and he used the title Gewehrfabrikant. I also found him listed as both B?chsenmacher and B?chsensch?fter. However, I believe he only retailed guns. Time frame: 1869-1872, and not sure about 1869. I could find no name for C. but a not too bold guess would be Carl.

          Also: if I'm wrong I'm wrong and there's no need for anyone to go full Elisabeth Taylor in a filthy mood if I am.

          Does anyone know who the owner is? If so, please inform him of the above.

          I did find a H. Biedermann as well but in Vienna so I doubt there's any relation. Flintenkalle's Lexikon lists a W. Biedermann in Bremen.

          Kind regards
          Peter

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