Another German Drilling - Krupp-

[Tau]

Not sure how much postage is to SA from here, but if you get stuck, let me know. Also shoot 8x57IR in my drilling.

tHANK YOU WILL MAKE CONTACT.

[Tau]

Thank you to everybody for all the help.

My Drilling is shooting so nicely and I am loving the rifle. She has even been on a hunt in the mountains looking for Kudu en Warthogs.

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120 m shots with 3 x 41gr en 3 x 42gr loads pushing 200gr Sellior & Belliot softs.

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I have ammo, and now even more I have 40 loaded rounds.


She is a treat to carry and shoots like a new rifle. I am astounded by the accuracy and that the scope is still spot on for 200gr softs after all these years.
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[sharps4590]

Well done Tau!

[Leatherman]

Glad you got it working for you. I am bringing one of my German combo guns over to South Africa next year in July. Been there twice and I have decided that a combo gun is the ideal weapon to have in Africa given all the different type of game available. Just like the German hunters of prewar era you only need to take the one gun and you have it all covered. I just need to decide on which one to take. It's between a 6.5x57R drilling and a 7x57R cape gun, both have scopes mounted on claw bases.

[mike ford]

Leatherman, do you have an einsteklauf in the drilling? If so, It would be helpful for smaller game, for the pot. On the other hand, I have more confidence in my 7x57R with "H" mantel bullet on larger game than I do in my 6.5x57R; as much as I like it. My first choice for larger, non Big Five, would be my 9.3x74R barrels with "TUG" bullets.
Mike

[Leatherman]

Yes I agree the 7x57 would probably be the better choice. It all depends on how well my cape gun shoots. Where we are hunting shots out to 300 yards are more common than 100 yard or shorter. I know my 6.5 X 57 drilling is capable out to 300 accuracy wise. I also know with a premium bullet like Barnes all copper bullets it will do the job on the plains game I plan to hunt. I went in 2012 with a guy who took a Mauser rifle in 6.5x55 swede and used a 130 grain Barnes solid and he shot Gemsbuc, Kudu, Wildebeest all long shots, all one shot kills. The PH was very impressed with the 6.5. I also have a 1965 era Franz Sodia O/U cape gun in 7x57R that is a shooter . And the Breneke slugs shoot at the same point of aim as the rifle barrel out to 50 yards and still manageable at 100 yards. But this gun has a 4x B Nickle scope with German post reticle and this would limit the range I would be able to shoot it confidently. I have made a solid weaver style scope base with claws to fit my 6.5 drilling and 7x57R SxS cape gun so I can mount my Leupold 4x14 CDS scope to them . That makes them a 300+ yard gun if they will shoot well at that range. Which ever one shoots the best at 300 yards will go with me. I have a lot of load development ahead of me. I do have two of the einsteklauf inserts, one in 22lr an one in 22 magnum I might take along too. I worry about what the TSA will say at the airport security when they see three types of ammo and only one rifle. They may not understand it and reject the ammo or the gun which would really cause a problem.

[mike ford]

Leatherman,
You should be able to find rimfire ammo there, at least LR. Then you would only need to clear customs with two calibers of ammo. Your PH might also be able to come up with Brennekes and shotshells, so then you would be down to one. The rifle ammo is the critical one anyway. This months American Rifleman has a very interesting article about Harry Selby's 22 pistol. An einstecklauf can be used in the same manner.
Mike

[Leatherman]

I hadn't read that article yet so I just did and it helped make up my mind on which gun to take. My Franz Sodia drilling has the indent in the right shotgun extractor for the einsteklauf . That way I can carry one gun with rifle , shot and a 22 rim fire with me all the time. Essentially a boc drilling. But unlike the hunters mentioned in the beginning of the article, I will not be leaving my drilling with the PH !

[Diz]

As traveling has gotten more complex, traveling with firearms is even more so. It may be best to enlist the services of professionals to make sure all laws are observed and the trip goes smoothly. The only one I know of at the moment is:

http://www.travelwithguns.com

There may be others. Thanks, Diz

[Leatherman]

Thanks , you are right. This is my 3rd trip to Africa and I use Gracey Travel for getting my gun permits all done ahead and they meet you at the customs gate when you arrive, take you and your guns to the Saps office where all you need to do is verify what is in your gun case is what it has in the books and your out of there in 10 minutes. $145 for each gun permit and about $20 for the meet and greet service. Best $170 you will spend for piece of mind while your in the airport and saving time in the Saps office. I have already asked Gracey Travel about getting permits on multi barreled guns and they said as long as our customs office is OK with them in issuing the 4457 customs form there shouldn't be any problem. The problem is that the weapon must have a manufacturers name and a serial number or no 4457 form will be stamped. So a Guild gun with no name on it could not be taken abroad.