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  • Anschuntz with a Manilicher Stock Mystery!

    To All:
    I recently acquire an Anschuntz 22 caliber rifle at and estate sale. I thought it was a run of the mill rifle, but the more research I have done, the more confusing this rifle gets!
    I am hoping some of you fine people can help me to identify what exactly this rifle is! The overall lenght is 43 inches. It is a single shot 22. It has a steel butt plate. There are no drillings for a scope or mounts. The rear sight is adjustable. The front sight is on a ramp and looks similar to a K-98 front sight.
    Ths stock is of the manilicher style and has a cheek rest for the right cheek. It has a birds head pistol grip with checkering. It has a swing swivel down below the trigger guard, and a loop style swivel up on the stock. Where the JGA emblem should be by the breech, there is a cicular proof mark with a woman/queen inside the circle.
    I have attached pictures. If you would like more, please let me know, I will try to post them for you.

    Thanks You!
    Bryan Davis
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  • #2
    Bryan,
    It would be helpful if you would post photos of the actual proof marks( the mark in the circle is a logo rather than proof mark). The thumbnails may not be large enough to be able to read the proof marks. I couldn't get the ones submitted large enough to be really helpful. The proof marks would likely be dated and this would give a clue. The rifle is marked "Sport Model " which is a model name found on training rifles by other makers. It may be helpful to other members who are more knowledgable than I to know the date of proof.
    Mike

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    • #3
      image.jpgHere are the only other marks that are on the rifle. Is the logo familiar to anyone?
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      • #4
        B-davis,
        I can see the date, but can't make out the numbers.It looks like 5,either41 or 44,which would be wartime production. However the caliber is shown as 22 Long Rifle, which should indicate post war production( as opposed to 22 Lang fur Buchsen(?)or 22LFB). I would defer to Axel or Jon on this.
        Mike

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        • #5
          The BUG proofmarks were only used up to March 31, 1940, so the rifle is certainly earlier, IMHO much earlier. The company founded by Julius Gottfried Anschuetz in 1856 was named "Germania Waffenwerk" from 1896 up to the 1920s, so your "queen" with the German imperial crown represents "Germania". The early "CROWN-crown/N Nitro" proofmarks went out of use a short time after WW1. So I tend to date the barreled action of your rifle about 1911-1923, when small bore rifle shooting started to replace centerfire Schuetzen rifle matches. IMHO that full stock with the peculiar cartridge container is a custom addition. From the shape of pistol grip and buttstock it is contemporary with the action, certainly pre-1930, but I can't say if it was made by Anschuetz or another gunsmith. "Sportmodell" can simply be translated as "target shooting model". That designation was not invented with the well known Mauser "Deutsches Sportmodell", DSM 34 in 1934. I read the numbers besides the proofmarks as 5,4 m/m, the bore or land diameter of a .22" = 5.6 mm groove diameter barrel.
          Last edited by Axel E; 11-22-2013, 08:13 AM.

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          • #6
            Thank you! That was quite informative! With that being said, has anyone ever seen an Anschutz in 22 cal. with a Manlicher stock?
            I know the old saying is- It is worth what some one is willing to pay for it, but with that being said, is this type of set up on this type of rifle rare? If so, what is a ball park figure?
            Once again, thank you!
            Bryan

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            • #7
              Axel,
              Thanks for pulling me out of the fire.
              Mike

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