6.5x57 mauser

[bobcat45]

you were right mike it is a mauser here are some pix any info will be appreciated. thnks bob



https://imgur.com/a/7iKjEOQ

[mike ford]

bobcat45,
By the listing I have, your very nice post WW1 Mauser was made between 1919- 1923. It is chambered for the 6.5x58 Portuguese Vergueiro cartridge. The 6.5x58 Port. was a pretty good, but seldom seen cartridge that was loaded by DWM in Germany and ICI in England, but I don't believe it was loaded in the USA. Any imported ammo you find is likely to be Berdan primed and priced for collecting rather than shooting. This should be no problem, since 8x57/30-06 headsize cases can be formed to fit the chamber and this is one of the 6.5mm cartridges that uses the common .264" bullet. Once you have cases made up, it is a straight forward handloading operation. Of course you can have custom loaded ammo made, but where is the fun in that? The factory commercial ammo was loaded with a 157 grain bullet at 2568 fps and a 139 grain bullet at 2775 fps. These are respectable ballistics, even if a little over stated. Commercial Mauser rifles are very collectable and there are a great many variations. It would be helpful to remove the barreled action from the stock, photograph the markings and measure the barrel. Axel will likely come into the conversation and this additional info will be helpful. Also examine the barrel, where a rear sight would normally be located ( photo if possible), to help in determining if the Lyman is "after market" or original equipment.
Mike

[bobcat45]

mike thanks for the info you gave me something to do this afternoon take the pix & post.Thanks Bob

[bobcat45]

Got the pics for ya, again if you would like to see anything more specific just let met know and ill take some more pics. Appreciate you guys, thanks Bob.

https://imgur.com/a/gacmaTm

[mike ford]

bobcat45,
The meaning of the crown U and crown B , is the same as for your combination guns you posted earlier. The 278 on the bottom of the barrel is the bore(not groove or bullet) diameter, expressed in the pre 1912 system of gauge measurement ( similar to shotguns).This equates to about 6.50 mm. The 6,45 6,65 200 on the side , show the bore diameter, groove diameter, and twist rate( 1 turn in 200 mm) shown in the post 1911 system using mm measurements. You will notice that the two different measurements of bore diameter do not precisely match. This does not indicate any problem. The measurements were taken with two different pin gage sets ground to two different standard increments between each step. The "hodge podge" of letters/numbers on the flat bottom of the action are simply marks placed by workers that performed some operation on the rifle. These marks were used to both account for the time of the workers and for identification, if some work wasn't "up to par". There is no ledger showing the identification of these marks. I hope you find this helpful, If Axel comes in to the conversation, he will be able to give you more useful information.
Mike

[bobcat45]

thanks mike looking forward to here from axel

[Axel E]

The serial number dates this type M carbine to late 1921. M carbines with round knob bolt handles are not common, but happen sometimes. With the uncommon, unknown in Germany, 6.5x58 Portuguese chambering it was most likely made for export. The Lyman rear sight was certainly added in America. All other aspects are explained by Mike, so I have nothing to add.

[bobcat45]

Axel, thanks for your input. Bob

[Packrattusnongratus]

I'm glad you bought the gun. Had I seen that gun for sale I might have got into trouble with the War Department! Packy

[bobcat45]

I'm glad you bought the gun. Had I seen that gun for sale I might have got into trouble with the War Department! Packy

Packy, evreythings for sale, Make me an Offer Bob