Brenneke Rifle Identification Help!

[7539]

If I open the bolt, the distance from the end of the barrel to the bolt is 33". It is 28 1/2" to the beginning of the bolt receiver.

[7539]

Mike, do you have any idea of value? Since there are none on the 'net, I'm having a devil of a time...

[7539]

i am at work today, I will post a bunch of photos tonight including some with a measuring tape so everybody can see how crazy I am...or not...

[Büchsemann]

7539,

Thank you for posting the additional pictures. As to your getting closer to the actual barrel length I had wondered at first if you had run into what would have been a rather extreme special order for barrel length. It now appears that your gun is quite normal for the period though the barrel is still a longer variant. Nice find!

Büchsemann

[7539]

Ok - I took the barrel off.....

And I found a whole heck of a lot of proof marks! I have posted new pictures of all markings at http://s959.photobucket.com/albums/a...ealestate/gun/

The serial number on the sight matches the one on the barrel and is handwritten on the stock and is also partially on the trigger mechanism.

I see - crown over B, crown over U, 7mm, 64, 833, crown over C, unknown mark, E, Crown over N, 11 G N, St. mG, another marking of Bohler Antinit with a star between them, then a series of DA, DTGT, D, Y, F.

OK now what does anyone think?

Thanks again for all the help

[ellenbr]

What mark is beside the 7mm on the proof stamp group(to the left of the 7mm)? 833 - August 1933 proof date. Crown over G and Crown over E(Express) on a very good steel Böhler Antinit. Just from memory, but at one time say in 1913, Böhler Antinit was available from one source like Poldi Antikorro, which was V.C. Schilling. I'd say the encircled CS was for Caspar Schilling. Paul Stadelmann was either owner or co owner of E. Schmidt & Habermann at this time and I've seen listings for him as being a successor to Fr. Zschockeis of Suhl. Paul Stadelmann was an apprentice at the firm Otto Bock and may have worked a stint there.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

[7539]

new photo of the marks

here are photos of those marks. you think as late as August 1933?

[ellenbr]

From this current view, what is just to the left of the 7mm over 64? I still can't see the initials or whatever. Yeah, put a glass on the 833 and confirm but the date would be August 1933.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

[mike ford]

7539,
The crown B indicates a single definitive proof with provisional proof charge, crownU is "View"proof(a detailed inspection),crown C I believe is a misreading of crown G or proof for barrels firing single projectiles, crown N next to crown is nitro proof for rifles. The 7 is bore dia.(in this case same as nominal caliber) 64 is case length in mm. Raimey addressed the date already , Aug 1933. The 11Gn, StMG is the duty bullet- 11gram(close to 170grain) steel jacketed bullet.As Raimey said, crown E is express proof, 7x64 was a real "barn burner" for it's time- still is world famous and respected.Like the others,I can't give you a value, except to say it's obviously worth at least what you paid for it. I will say it's a very good find.

[7539]

here is the mark next to the 7mm

Thanks heartily once again for all the help

[ellenbr]

I see what it is now, a barrel maker's stamp of a coupled J & Y, or something of the like, seen on may tubes during this time. Ford is correct as it was proofed in the final state.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse