Hi Everyone, Recently inherited a J.P. Sauer & Sohn

[Kaya225]

Need help identifying this 12 gauge that my great uncle left to me. Appreciate all the help I can get.

[Jim Cate]

We would appreciate a sideview of the receiver to determine if it has upper or lower or both sears. It appears to be a Model 14, and from the serial number I would have to say it was made in the 1912-14 period. More photos would be appreciated. Thanks, Jim Cate

[mike ford]

Kaya225
Do you have the forearm? The photos didn't show it and they are missing more often than we like.
Mike

[Jim Cate]

Kaya, I'm still waiting on more photos. Can't help you anymore unless I get them. Thanks, JIM

[Kaya225]

sorry, super busy, when I get home tonight I will add what your looking for. Thanks for the help and bear with me.

[Kaya225]

do have the forearm, I'll take a picture of it tonight. Thanks

[Kaya225]

more pics, hopefully what you asked for

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[Kaya225]

forearm pic updated

[Kaya225]

side view of receiver updated, hopefully what you were asking for.

[mike ford]

Kaya225,
Happy you have the forearm, I'm guessing Jim Cate will be back shortly.
Mike

[Kaya225]

thanks, and excellent!

[Kaya225]

yeah, me too. Guessing it would be difficult to replace. Thanks for being a part of this thread.

[Kaya225]

Does anyone have any idea of its general value? Approx

[Jim Cate]

Kaya225, Your Sauer is a Model 8 with upper sears only. Interestingly, a person could order just about anything he wanted on a Model 8 (better wood, more checkering, engraving, etc.) if he desired any of these. You have a nice Sauer, so enjoy! Stay well, Jim

[mike ford]

Kaya225,
The crown S on the barrels means the gun was proofed for shot. A crown W means any barrel it is found on is choked, but the amount of constriction isn't shown. The NITRO means it was proofed with smokeless power. The crown U is the mark for a "View" proof, which is a detailed inspection, including verification of dimensions, after definitive proof. The 12 is a circle means it had a standard( for the time) 12 ga. chamber. At the time, the standard was a 65(67?)mm chamber, which is shorter than the current standard length of 70mm ( 2 3/4"). The 13/1 is the diameter of the bore ahead of the chamber, expressed in gauge measurement. This equates to about 18.26mm. The large crown and the so called "Wildman" are not proof marks, rather, they are Sauer's marks. There was no photo of the proof loads( amount & type of smokeless powder), so it was proofed after 1913; but there was also no date, so it was proofed before 1923.
Mike