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  • J. P. Sauer drilling

    In an effort to be as big a pain in the tail as I can here's another drilling I found. Correct bore for me and in the rifle cartridge I'm looking for. Pretty good set of pictures.

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=299342303

    I am in communication with the seller and in regard to it being "loose" he tells me that a piece of paper won't fit between the standing breech and the breech end of the barrels. I mic'd a half dozen pieces of paper and they all ran .003. Must be some industry standard. Anyway, is that enough to be concerned with? Also, is the front sight much of a deal?

    What I see: I don't believe the engraving looks very good. The animals aren't bad but the flowers and leaves don't look right to me. Has the standing breech been sanded? The dolls head looks hokey....like a bullet swaged from two casting. Is that one screwed together? Looks like a slot in the end of it. The rear locking lug looks very clean....like it's been sanded or something also. It doesn't show a wear pattern like the front lug. Am I picking nits?

    Vic

  • #2
    Vic,
    The drilling looks pretty clean, may have been refinished in the past. The front sight is not a problem, but if it is loose enough to require tightening, this won't be so easy. While I do know a quick and easy way to do it, such a job will shoot loose very quickly. The proper way is to replace the hinge pin with a larger one and refit the barrels. The drilling may have been built from an action and barrels from Sauer, but I don't believe they put it together. The drilling was proofed in Zella-Mehlis and it is unlikely Sauer would have had one of theirs proofed there. The real date is the 1931 one. The 295 is the ledger number and is not a date. Since it is marked 8.6mm, .358" bullets might be useable, but the barrel should be slugged.
    Mike

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    • #3
      Vic,

      Right off I'll say that it was very nice of the seller to provide the viewing community with some quality pictures, this we all know is unfortunately not always the case. Overall the gun looks pretty good to me but I am wondering exactly what I'm seeing in the picture of the tail end of the barrels. It looks like a repair (weld) was done to the dolls head to include some stoning. The gun shows good trace of original case colors, which is nice. The missing front sight is not big deal at all. If the bores are in nice shape I'd say the current price is pretty good (American market) but that can surely change depending on how bad somebody wants it. It would be nice if it had a tang diopter but not having one wouldn't be enough to deter me if I was thinking of snagging it.

      Büchsemann

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      • #4
        I do not see any marks that indicate Sauer was involved or sourced. The sporting weapon is a Roux variant made in 1931 as a trade gun in the Zella-Mehlis area.

        Kind Regards,

        Raimey
        rse

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        • #5
          I can't thank all of you enough. Negotiations continue.

          Where do you guys find all this stuff!?!?!?!?!? In the books the GGCA has for sale?

          Vic

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          • #6
            I have it penned on the back of my hand??? I think it is a nice piece that needs a little work but I do prefer a hammer drilling over a hammerless.

            Kind Regards,

            Raimey
            rse
            Last edited by ellenbr; 08-06-2012, 10:43 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ellenbr View Post
              I have it penned on the back of my hand??? I think it is a nice piece that needs a little work but I do prefer a hammer drilling over a hammerless.

              Kind Regards,

              Raimey
              rse
              Raimey

              Did you use a fountain pen to scribe onto the back of your hand? I prefer a nice 1930's Pelikan to the modern ball point pens....

              I have stayed away from the hammer drillings in favor of the hammerless models.

              Doug

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              • #8
                Ah Kellermann, I could tolerate a Pelikan from the 1930s, but my choice would be a Montblanc Meisterstuck with the German blue ink that bonds to cotton, mylar, onion skin, etc.

                Kind Regards,

                Raimey
                rse

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