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Good evening German Gun Collector Assn members. I recently won at an auction a 16Ga SxS described as an Ed Kettner hammer shotgun. I have posted about the gun on the Double Gun Shop forum and Raimey has been instrumental in providing valuable information about it. However, I also wanted to post it at your forum and get your reaction and opinions also.
According to Raimey, the frame identifies the gun as being a J P Sauer & Sohns made around 1890 and probably being a model V. The barrels, however are marked Ed Kettner, Coln, Suhl are made of steel and are Nitro proved. We speculate they barrels are newer and replacement to the original gun barrels. The barrels ring true and although the bores are a little rough, they are very good for the most part. Judging from the end of the barrels and their thickness, it is probably choked full of extra full. There used to be sling swivels on the barrels and stock, but they have been removed. The gun seems to lock up tight but the top level does not return to the middle by itself. It seems the spring is broken. The rebounding hammers are low profile with stout springs. They seem to work well, although I think the left one needs a bit of attention (trip & clean for sure). The horn trigger guard also needs some attention. The butt plate is also horn and the victim of a bug/moth attack. The stock and forend checkering is fine, but very worn. The stock seems to be sound with no cracks, but has a lot of scratches. However, it does seem to have some nice figure.
I was researching the Double Gun Shop forum and found Raimey's old post from 12/28/15 of Sam's J P Sauer & Sohn 16Ga model V hammer gun, (I posted the link here). http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/...&Number=430502
The serial numbers are only 52 numbers apart (mine 36490, Sam's 36542). The frame design, locks and hammers are the same. The water table on my gun also has a large and a smaller crown. The engraving is carving relief in both guns and although different, it has some resemblance. Could it be that it was executed by the same master?
The more I look at the gun and its quality, the more I would like to bring back to a shooting condition and possible embark on a restoration to bring it back to its old glory. I had some work done by Mr. Gunter Pfrommer in the past and was very satisfy, although it was not as extensive work as this one I am thinking of doing.
Your opinion, advise, and suggestion are most welcomed. BillK
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According to Raimey, the frame identifies the gun as being a J P Sauer & Sohns made around 1890 and probably being a model V. The barrels, however are marked Ed Kettner, Coln, Suhl are made of steel and are Nitro proved. We speculate they barrels are newer and replacement to the original gun barrels. The barrels ring true and although the bores are a little rough, they are very good for the most part. Judging from the end of the barrels and their thickness, it is probably choked full of extra full. There used to be sling swivels on the barrels and stock, but they have been removed. The gun seems to lock up tight but the top level does not return to the middle by itself. It seems the spring is broken. The rebounding hammers are low profile with stout springs. They seem to work well, although I think the left one needs a bit of attention (trip & clean for sure). The horn trigger guard also needs some attention. The butt plate is also horn and the victim of a bug/moth attack. The stock and forend checkering is fine, but very worn. The stock seems to be sound with no cracks, but has a lot of scratches. However, it does seem to have some nice figure.
I was researching the Double Gun Shop forum and found Raimey's old post from 12/28/15 of Sam's J P Sauer & Sohn 16Ga model V hammer gun, (I posted the link here). http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/...&Number=430502
The serial numbers are only 52 numbers apart (mine 36490, Sam's 36542). The frame design, locks and hammers are the same. The water table on my gun also has a large and a smaller crown. The engraving is carving relief in both guns and although different, it has some resemblance. Could it be that it was executed by the same master?
The more I look at the gun and its quality, the more I would like to bring back to a shooting condition and possible embark on a restoration to bring it back to its old glory. I had some work done by Mr. Gunter Pfrommer in the past and was very satisfy, although it was not as extensive work as this one I am thinking of doing.
Your opinion, advise, and suggestion are most welcomed. BillK
333a_1.jpg
333a.jpg
333a_2.jpg
333a_3 (1).jpg
333a_6.jpg
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