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Hello everybody!
I want to share with you my latest purchase.
I think, that nobody have seen such gun before.
I want to share with you my latest purchase.
I think, that nobody have seen such gun before.
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MARAT,
Could you post another photo of the proof marks? The glare from the flash makes the marks unreadable. Does it have a "Thumb Trigger", for use by a handicapped hunter ?
MikeComment
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Ok ![ATTACH=CONFIG]3077[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]3078[/ATTACH]Comment
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Look at picture 4 in Marat's first post.
On top of the safety switch there is a button, and on top of that, an engraving:
KNOPFABZUGSGEWEHR / Button trigger gun
?? MARTIN & SOHN (or SÖHNE ?)
BONN A RH
fuhrmannComment
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Intrigue finished!
You are right, gentlemen. Pictures are telling better than words.DSC_1169.jpgDSC_1170.jpgComment
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Ha, more buttons!
When pressing the first button (safety), the cover can be slid backwards, and then 2 button triggers show up.
Very elaborate, and quite safe too.
The small hook made of horn (where normally the triggers would be) will serve as an index or aid to hold the gun properly.
Marat, thanks for showing us this!
fuhrmannComment
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Yes, Reeb was the first who made the similar gun, but he never made Over and Under, only S&S.Comment
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Sorry, Sergey, but I have not seen pics of this button trigger over-under before. Congratulations for acquiring such a rare piece! You once sent some photos of a Martin button trigger drilling in much worse shape, but that is another story.
There is a lot of confusion about the Bonn gunshops J.J. Reeb senior, J.J. Reeb junior / "Rebo", Philipp Reeb, Emil R. Martin (& son), their relations and the origin of the button trigger guns.
Reebs in Bonn
Johann Jakob Reeb, 1843 -1924, in 1870 took over the Bonn shop of Ewald Becher, Josephstr.36, established 1857, later Münsterplatz. In 1887 he became gumaker to the court of Prince Leopold of Prussia, 1903 to Crown Prince Wilhelm, son of Wilhelm II, with the title "Hofbüchsenmacher". J.J. had two sons, J. "Hans" Reeb, 1883 – 1962, and Phillip Reeb. J.J. retired in 1909.
In 1907 son Hans Reeb took over a recently acquired shop at Poststr. 21, Bonn, and continued as "J.J.Reeb junior". Son Philipp retained his father's original shop.
Now we got the same problem with the Reebs in Bonn as with the Kettners in Köln and the Merkels, Funks and Heyms in Suhl: A family split up and operating different, competing businesses with the same family name, leading to confusion. Look at the letterheads :
One is by J.J.Reeb, Poststrasse 21, Bonn, telegraphic address "Reeb,Poststrasse".
The other by Philipp Reeb, Münsterplatz 17a, Bonn, telegraph address "Philipp Reeb, Bonn". Note the add in: Always address to Philipp Reeb, Bonn, as the first name is important!
Both companies corresponded with the same Suhl engraver, Hugo Weiss, on guns made for the Reebs by Albert Stobbe, Suhl.
BTW, a “Philipp Reeb” company still exists in Bonn:
Philipp Reeb, inh. Robert Ley, Damenmoden = ladies' fashion!, Am Hof 26 A, 53113 Bonn
Sic transit gloria mundi!
Emil Robert Martin: According to an 1935 "Waffenzeitung" article on his 40th business anniverary he came from Suhl, where he learned his trade at the Sauer & Sohn factory from 1883. From 1893 on he worked for J.J.Reeb, Bonn. In 1895 he took over the old Ewald Becher shop from J.J.Reeb, and set up on his own. Subsequently he designed a three-trigger drilling and an unique "Vierling", four barreled gun with a barrel selector that allowed the two triggers to be switched from safe to double shotgun, double rifle or combination.
Usually J.J.Reeb is credited with the design of the button tigger gun. Indeed there is DRGM # 245452 of April 1905, shown above by Aelgmule, on a button trigger to J. J. "Hans" Reeb junior.
But that article on Emil Martin credits him with the invention on the button trigger. And indeed, there was another DRGM # 133184, issued March 22, 1900, to Emil Martin, on a button trigger plus the sliding safety cover! This DRGM had already expired after 3 years when Hans Reeb protected his own design 5 years later.
So I believe Emil R. Martin being the real inventor of the basic button trigger guns, maybe in close collaboration with the Reebs.Last edited by Axel E; 09-20-2016, 04:31 PM.Comment
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BTW, the gun was proofed in Suhl 238 = February 1938 for 12-70 = 12 g 2 3/4" loads.Comment
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I don't know what is it truth, but I know two version of design such type of guns.
First is - it was made specially for Kaiser, who had defective hand and liked very much hunting.
Second - it was designed specially for winter hunting. To shoot in gloves.Comment
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I only can tell you my opinion and senses.
I have some quantity guns with not typical construction. And before hunting , I am going to shooting ground to learn how to shoot.
About this gun.
When you are standing and see clay pigeon, you index finger instinctively wants to press trigger, but you only pressing plastic emphasis.
Only after missing 5 or 7 targets , you brain finds right command to your fingers, that you must move this buttons forward to shoot with the help of thumb.Comment
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