Would like help finding ammunition for Foerster 9.5x47R black powder

[Cousin Mike]

Thank you for that info fuhrmann. I have a feeling this journey is going to be even more interesting than I originally thought.

[Cousin Mike]

Thank you algmule. I am pretty sure that is the first advertisement from 1872 I have ever seen.

[Cousin Mike]

sharps,
The gunsmith indicated this was a black powder cartridge. Thank you so much for the names of the businesses that can provide the various reloading components. I'm going to have to start saving my pennies.

[Cousin Mike]

Thank you Diz! The casting is at the gunsmith's but I have printed this off and will go see him tomorrow.

[Cousin Mike]

LOL, my head is swimming, Mike . Thank you for the info. I will get this sorted out.

I apologize for not mentioning earlier where I live. I have remedied that by updating my profile. I live in North Richland Hills, Texas (a Fort Worth suburb).

[Dan Patch]

My own specimen of the 9.5 x 47r is actually a cut down and reformed 11.15 x 60r military case, vintage 1880 or so, evidently done in Germany many decades ago. Waste not, want not. Dan

[fuhrmann]

The top gun is the 9.5x47R Foerster. The bottom is the 8x57JR Grundig. The rest of the pictures below will be of the Foerster.
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Looking at this very first foto again, I am intrigued by the similarity in design of these two rifles.
Meaning: shape and length of the buttstocks, form of pistol grips, location of rear sight are much the same.

Of course this may be coincidence but I get a feeling that the later rifle was ordered with the older rifle as an example:
"Make me a rifle that handles the same way as this one..."

[sharps4590]

Dan, that's how I got my 10.5 cases, reforming 11.15 X 60R but, they aren't vintage. They stared life as 348 WCF cases. They work well and it was a fun project.

[mike ford]

Cousin Mike,
OK, now maybe a member living in or near Ft. Worth, will stand up and help. The 9.5x47R was one of the more popular of this class of cartridges, so one of our Ft. Worth members could load for it, or know someone who does.
Mike

[Diz]

Cousin Mike,

Just to add a bit more to the topic. In my opinion it would make things easier for you by just spending a few extra bucks and getting the correct brass from either Graf & Sons or Huntington's. Then you have the correct head stamp to go with it and if you decide to load it yourself or have someone do it for you it will save a huge amount of time and trouble. No offence to Mike and Sharps as they are both experts and old hands at cartridge conversions but for a new comer, it will be easier.

Also, Accurate Molds has a stop ring 210 grain bullet mold listed specifically for the 9.5x47R. The catalog number is 38-210R. Tom made a mold for me and it is first class in every respect. Sharps knows Tom very well too and his molds.

If you run out of options I may be able to help somehow.

Diz

[mike ford]

Cousin Mike,
I don't know about the "expert" part, but Diz is correct that buying cases will be easier. If you intend to do so, you should do it right away. Graf shows one box in stock, and Huntington shows five boxes. Both are 20 round boxes from Bertram and "unformed" ( forming them would be no problem with correct dies). Everybody I know that uses Accurate Molds sings their praise.
It's just that I have a hard time paying over $70 for 20 cases when I can make them with basic cases that cost less than $12/20. Sometimes I forget, not everybody has a machine shop in their basement.

[Cousin Mike]

You're pretty industrious, Dan :-)

[Cousin Mike]

fuhrmann, here are a few more pictures of the guns side by side. It may not be obvious from the pics but the Foerster is slimmer than the Grundig, especially in the area between the grip and the forearm.

Later rifle on the bottom.
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Later rifle on the top.
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[Cousin Mike]

Thanks for that advice, Mike.

[Cousin Mike]

fuhrmann, I received an email from Franz Dorfner this morning. He said they are currently out of stock until winter, but unfortunately could not ship internationally. He did say they could ship empty cases but again, not until winter.