Photo of the entire combo gun

[Harm]

Here is a pic of the entire gun, hopefully you can click on the pictures a couple of times to get it large enough. Es ist fur verkauf. if I remember my German correctly.
Thaks, HarmP5030009.jpg There are no makers marks or engraving makers marks of any kind. I have looked at everything.

[chapmen]

Thanks for the pic, poorly i am in germany and not in USA- would be interested in buying....
"Es ist zum Verkauf" is quite corect!

[Axel E]

Such "Schonzeit-Bockbüchsflinten" = closed (big game-) season over-under combination guns were made by several shops in Zella-Mehlis for the trade, wholesalers and retailers. Their use was for varmint and pest shooting. In the 1960s their purpose was fille by f.i. the Savage 24 series. Such guns are shown for example in these old catalogs, available as reprints from the Bookshop on this GGCA website:
R002 Burgsmueller ca.1930, page 55
R015 Steigleder 1920s, page 10

[Harm]

Thank you again Axel. I will check the bookshop for the reprint. Should be interesting to see.
Harm

[Axel E]

Very similar gus are already featured in the 1911 ALFA, Haburg export catalog:

[Harm]

Looks like a CBH39a but my gun is 22x28. How cool is that!!!
Harm

[Axel E]

I guess from the description of ALFA's order number 16/16b which emphasizes "Shotbarrel above" to differentiate it from the models shown on top, that order number CBH39a indeed had the rifle barrel on top. The cut on top of the page also shows a thinner rifle b arrel on top. In the ALFA catalog usually the shotgun bore was mentioned first, regardless of the position of the barrels.

[Harm]

Thanks for the research Axel. When I came to this country in 1960, the exchange rate was about 2.3 something. That would make this gun worth 50 bucks new. Of course, 1911, that was a considerably more by income standards.
Thanks, Harm

[Axel E]

The 1911 Alfa catalog shows an "Exchange-Table" on page XIII. It then rated the US$ at Mark 4.20, so the 39a was $ 33.80 fob Hamburg. To this you have to add transport, customs, taxes and so on. The same catalog on page 472 shows the Winchester 94 carbine in 30-30 at Mark 108.-, $ 25.70.

[Harm]

Wouldn't it have been great if we had a truck load of these today or came upon a warehouse with a pallet full of them? Anyway, thanks for the information as you are a continued great help. Axel, would you care to guess the value of the gun today?
Thanks, Harm

[Axel E]

The American gun market is very different from the German one. Besides, out of experience i have made it a habit never to appraise a gun I have not personally handled and seen. Pehaps an American member may be of some help.

[Harm]

My apologies Axel, I didn't realize you were a German member as I would not have asked that question. Your policy about seeing and handling is probably a good idea. Again, sorry about that.
Regards, Harm