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[Waldkirch]

Mike, this is a picture of the trigger guard. There is no markings of any kind indicating any name of manufacturer. Also Jon and Tom did not do a physical inspect of this gun, only pictures and phone conversation.I did look at the 1912/ 1913 catalog and the gun is very close in appearance to a model 89E or 90E. Shot the gun this weekend and it was a dream to shot except I could not connect solidly on the birds since I normally shot a Skeet 1 and Skeet2 barrel c combination and these barrels are both chocked .641.

[Waldkirch]

I do not know what the German word would be< too many years in this country. I can only guess that the function is purely cosmetic as this natter is only a VERY little above the rest of this side. Thank you for he info on the Konczakowski.

[Waldkirch]

natter is only a VERY little above. should read "this area is only VERY little above the rest off this side"

[Waldkirch]

Axel E, you really have a lot of knowledge about guns. Wish we could sit down and talk while having a few Andecks or Dinkelacher!!

[Waldkirch]

Don't know what the 6422 stands for on the barrel (only one barrel) , but the receiver locking lug and the water table have matching #7069 while the forend only has a #69

[Waldkirch]

I am now the owner of this gorgeous weapon. Any ideas on my thoughts that tis might be a Franz Jaeger Model 89E or 90E ? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[mike ford]

Waldkirch,
The listing of GGCA Reference Works for Sale shown in the association's publications shows : RO13-F.Jaeger & Co. trademark "Herold", 32 pages cover all major Jaeger patents. $15. You may find this publication helpful, you will certainly find it informative.
Mike

[Axel E]

Any ideas on my thoughts that tis might be a Franz Jaeger Model 89E or 90E ?

Where did you find these designations or model numbers? They don't appear in the 1910 Jaeger/Herold catalog.

[Waldkirch]

http://www.germanhuntingguns.com website -- check out the 191/1913 Franz Jaeger & Co. catalog

[Waldkirch]

Should read 1912/1913 catalog see page #17

[Axel E]

Your shotgun is certainly the highest grade Anson& Deeley boxlock ejector , double underbolting and Greener crossbolt,double triggers, Franz Jaeger offered. These guns were semi-custom made, so shaping and engraving may differ in details. Pictures of these highest grade guns are not shown in any of Jaeger's catalogs. Franz Jaeger was not consistent in numbering his gun models and grades.
The 1908 catalog page 14 and the 1910/11 one p 15 call it "Nr. 11". The 1912/13 one calls it "90E" while the 1934 #35 lists them as "Nr. 108 EF". The gun is certainly pre-WW1, exact date unknown. So it is your choice to call it either a "model Nr.11" or a "model 90 E".

[Waldkirch]

Thanks for the confirmation, though it's hard for me to be able to understand how such a great gun maker and innovator would not be better at markings guns with his name, I sure would.